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		<title>Data Portability Wars : Google and Facebook vs. YOU</title>
		<link>http://blog.dataportability.org/2011/07/05/data-portability-wars-google-and-facebook-vs-you/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jul 2011 15:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve Repetti</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Well, here we go again.</p> <p>The big companies love to embrace data portability and the freedom it provides its users, not to mention the press and goodwill that comes with it, as long as it doesn’t conflict with their corporate agenda.</p> <p>Let’s call it what it is: Facebook and Google both support “convenient” data <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://blog.dataportability.org/2011/07/05/data-portability-wars-google-and-facebook-vs-you/">Data Portability Wars : Google and Facebook vs. YOU</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, here we go again.</p>
<p>The big companies love to embrace data portability and the freedom it provides its users, not to mention the press and goodwill that comes with it, as long as it doesn’t conflict with their corporate agenda.</p>
<blockquote style='border:none; background:#ffffff; font-size:16pt;'><p><img src="http://www.radwebtech.com/images/quote.png" border=0 width=33 height=30 align='left' hspace=5 style='border:none; background:#ffffff;'/><i>Let’s call it what it is: Facebook and Google both support “convenient” data portability &#8212; at all times convenient for them, *sometimes* convenient for you.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>Google and Facebook have both flirted with data portability and it was generally taken as a good sign when both hired leading open source/data portability advocates (Chris Messina and David Recordon respectively). Facebook’s APIs and social graph integration, as well as Google’s Takeout initiative, have been shining examples of the net result of this effort.</p>
<p>Still, despite these advances, both companies continue to “play” with your data – to your detriment. Back in February, Google removed an existing feature from its Android mobile phone operating system specifically to make it more difficult for users to integrate their Facebook contacts (<a href="http://www.slashgear.com/nexus-s-losing-facebook-contacts-sync-as-google-tightens-data-policy-23135396/" target="_blank">Nexus S losing Facebook contacts sync as Google tightens data policy</a>).</p>
<p>The latest salvo in this escalating war occurred while the US celebrated its Independence day holiday weekend: Facebook disabled a critical feature used to export your friends data (<a href="http://www.zdnet.com/blog/facebook/facebook-blocks-google-chrome-extension-for-exporting-friends/1935" target="_blank">Facebook blocks Google Chrome extension for exporting friends</a>). This appears to be a direct response to Google’s recent moves further into social networking: Google+ (<a href="http://www.slashgear.com/facebook-blocks-friend-export-tool-in-google-snub-05163048/">Facebook blocks friend export tool in Google+ snub</a> ).</p>
<p>The reality is that we gave both companies the right to monkey with our data. We accepted their terms of service when we joined their services and we continually agree when they make changes – for better or worse. And, while a few have left in protest, it is not practical to expect much more.</p>
<p>Let’s call it what it is: Facebook and Google both support “convenient” data portability &#8212; at all times convenient for them, *sometimes* convenient for you. And maybe that’s ok. After all, they are commercial enterprises answerable to boards and shareholders and subject to their leadership within.</p>
<p>I get it. Information is an asset, and why would anyone fiscally responsible intentionally dilute or give away an asset?</p>
<p>And therein is the conflict. Us versus them, my data versus their monetization of it.</p>
<blockquote style='border:none; background:#ffffff; font-size:16pt;'><p><img src="http://www.radwebtech.com/images/quote.png" border=0 width=33 height=30 align='left' hspace=5 style='border:none; background:#ffffff;'/><i>I hereby challenge Google, Facebook, and all other interested parties to sit down at a DATA PORTABILITY SUMMIT and figure it out together.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>This is complicated stuff. If Google and Facebook truly want to be the global purveyors of information that they purport to be, they’ll figure it out – or leave opportunity for the next company to come along and get it right. But the first thing they need to understand is that they cannot do it alone. When crafting global policy regarding user’s data they must include the user, otherwise they are simply more walled-gardens of varying heights.</p>
<p>So, before this thing spirals any further, let’s talk about it.</p>
<p>As Chairman of the International non-profit Data Portability organization, I hereby challenge Google, Facebook, and all other interested parties to sit down at a DATA PORTABILITY SUMMIT and figure it out together. Name the place, name the time – or your users will. Now is your chance to truly show leadership on a global scale. But know this: that coveted asset of information you possess exists solely because of your users. It’s ok to be capitalistic, and its good not to be evil, but it’s time to make data portability convenient for us all.</p>
<p>Interested in the DATA PORTABILITY SUMMIT? Let me know: <a href='mailto:steve@radwebtech.com'>steve@radwebtech.com</a></p>
<p>Steve Repetti<br />
Chairman, DataPortability.org</p>
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		<title>Google Unleashes New Data Portability Initiative: Google Takeout</title>
		<link>http://blog.dataportability.org/2011/06/28/google-unleashes-new-data-portability-initiative-google-takeout/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2011 20:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve Repetti</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Google today unveiled a new service that provides advanced Data Portability across its diverse platform.  Google Takeout (http://www.google.com/takeout) makes it easy to extract your data from a variety of Google Services including: Buzz, Contact and Circles, Picasa Web Albums, and Profile. The information is provided in a variety of formats, including vCard and JSON <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://blog.dataportability.org/2011/06/28/google-unleashes-new-data-portability-initiative-google-takeout/">Google Unleashes New Data Portability Initiative: Google Takeout</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google today unveiled a new service that provides advanced Data Portability across its diverse platform.  Google Takeout (<a href="http://www.google.com/takeout">http://www.google.com/takeout</a>) makes it easy to extract your data from a variety of Google Services including: Buzz, Contact and Circles, Picasa Web Albums, and Profile. The information is provided in a variety of formats, including vCard and JSON (JavaScript Object Notation), and can be quickly downloaded onto your local computer.</p>
<p><img src="http://radwebtech.com/dataportability/googleTakeout1.jpg" border="0" alt="" width="500" height="419" /></p>
<p><img src="http://radwebtech.com/dataportability/googleTakeout2.jpg" border="0" alt="" width="500" height="419" /></p>
<p>In many ways this is not unlike the Data Portability initiatives over at Facebook, and it is certainly a welcome addition to the Google universe.  And now that Google is moving more into the social networking space with its just announced Google+ project (<a href="http://plus.google.com/">http://plus.google.com</a>), the value of Google’s Data Portability efforts to its end-users will likely substantially increase.</p>
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		<title>True Data Portability</title>
		<link>http://blog.dataportability.org/2011/01/12/true-data-portability/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2011 06:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>drummondreed</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been on the board of Dataportability.org since its founding three years ago. The concept made quite a splash when it was first announced, but I knew that after the hype wore off would come all the hard work of making it real. And that&#8217;s where XDI would be needed.</p> <p>Ever since then, I&#8217;ve <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://blog.dataportability.org/2011/01/12/true-data-portability/">True Data Portability</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been on the board of <a href="http://www.dataportability.org/">Dataportability.org</a> since its founding three years ago. The concept made quite a splash  when it was first announced, but I knew that after the hype wore off  would come all the hard work of making it real. And that&#8217;s where <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XDI">XDI</a> would be needed.</p>
<p>Ever since then, I&#8217;ve watched the concept of Data Portability become  somewhat of a buzzword with different companies and communities. As is  often the case with buzzwords, actual understanding runs a mile wide and  an inch deep.</p>
<p>Which is why <a href="http://thewebissocial.com/2010/10/facebook-download-your-data-is-not-data-portability/">this article from DP Communications Chair Alisa Leonard</a> caught my eye: it goes right to the heart of defining what data portability really means. I especially like this quote:</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>It is important to first understand that true data  portability  puts the ultimate power of data control in the hands of the  user, not  the web application using that data.</strong></p></blockquote>
<p>She goes on to explain precisely why this means Facebook does not yet provide data portability:</p>
<blockquote><p>Facebook has long fallen under scrutiny for having  immense control  over end user data. The development of Facebook Connect  and the Open  Graph API have been steps in the direction of data  portability, but  ultimately, Facebook continues to maintain, under  their TOS, the last  word on your data usage through an all-encompassing  license to do what  they wish with your data (including sub-license it  to other entities).</p>
<p>What matters is that while they now allow more access to your data through the download feature, t<strong>he Facebook TOS has not changed</strong>—   meaning your data is still on their server and while you can download,   you cannot remove your data entirely (if you wished to do so). <strong>This is data accessibility, not data portability.</strong></p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;d go one step further: companies and sites that provide true data  portability will provide 100% programmatic access to the data that you  store there. Which means you can do more than just remove/delete it. You  can read it, write it, or move it somewhere else &#8212; all under your  control, using the tool, program, or service of your choice.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s how email works today: I can read, write, delete, and move my  email from my email provider completely under my control, not theirs.  (The &#8220;moving&#8221; part is not actually something that most email provider&#8217;s  support directly, i.e., you have to copy it from one provider and write  it to another, which is anywhere from difficult to almost impossible.)  But if you can do all these things, and you can do them easily without  barriers &#8212; that&#8217;s true data portability.</p>
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		<title>RockMelt Builds on Facebook’s Data Portability</title>
		<link>http://blog.dataportability.org/2010/11/08/rockmelt-builds-on-facebook%e2%80%99s-data-portability/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2010 02:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve Repetti</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>An innovative new product has entered the scene that will likely test the resolve of Facebook and others as it relates to data portability.  RockMelt (www.rockmelt.com) is a customized implementation of the open source (Google) Chrome browser that tightly integrates social media while maintaining the comfort (and speed) of the Chrome browsing environment. It <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://blog.dataportability.org/2010/11/08/rockmelt-builds-on-facebook%e2%80%99s-data-portability/">RockMelt Builds on Facebook’s Data Portability</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An innovative new product has entered the scene that will likely test the resolve of <a href="http://www.facebook.com" target="_blank">Facebook</a> and others as it relates to data portability.  RockMelt (<a href="http://www.rockmelt.com" target="_blank">www.rockmelt.com</a>) is a customized implementation of the open source (Google) <a href="http://code.google.com/chromium/" target="_blank">Chrome browser </a>that tightly integrates social media while maintaining the comfort (and speed) of the Chrome browsing environment. It is so tight in fact that Facebook is likely trying to figure out what to do with this revolutionary – and potentially dangerous (to them) – new thing. You see, RockMelt gives you much of the experience of being inside of Facebook without actually being there – including no Facebook ads &#8212; all thanks to Facebook’s data portability capabilities. In many cases the RockMelt browser does Facebook BETTER than Facebook.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.rockmelt.com"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-573" title="rockmelt" src="http://blog.dataportability.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/rockmelt.png" alt="" width="216" height="70" /></a></p>
<p> Of course if Facebook looks at all of this with an open mind, they will realize that RockMelt has “officially” made Facebook the center of the social communications universe – and <a href="http://techcrunch.com/2010/10/06/facebook-now-allows-you-to-download-your-information/" target="_blank">FB’s data portability initiatives </a>are powering an increasingly expanding wave (sorry Google, no pun intended) that solidifies that position. The question remains whether Facebook will embrace this direction and take it even further or feel threatened and seek to crush that which it does not control.  I for one wouldn’t be surprised if the RockMelt browser became the <a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-19882_3-20022134-250.html" target="_blank">Facebook browser</a>…</p>
<p> Regardless of the result, it is the innovative use of data portability that sparked this particular seed of innovation.</p>
<p>&#8211;Steve Repetti, vice-chair DataPortability, CEO/CTO <a href="http://www.radwebtech.com">www.radwebtech.com</a></p>
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		<title>Chris Saad questions Mark Zuckerberg</title>
		<link>http://blog.dataportability.org/2010/05/29/chris-saad-questions-mark-zuckerberg/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 23:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Elias Bizannes</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Chris Saad wrote an important post that appeared on the ReadWriteWeb Blog yesterday. I recommend you read it to get a better understanding of Facebook&#8217;s privacy moves in relation to Data Portability.</p> <p>In it, he raises a key point about the tendancy for Facebook, as well as other large companies, to manipulate industry language <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://blog.dataportability.org/2010/05/29/chris-saad-questions-mark-zuckerberg/">Chris Saad questions Mark Zuckerberg</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://chrissaad.com">Chris Saad</a> wrote an important post that appeared on the <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/chris_saad_facebooks_claims_about_data_portability_are_false.php">ReadWriteWeb Blog</a> yesterday. I recommend you read it to get a better understanding of Facebook&#8217;s privacy moves in relation to Data Portability.</p>
<p>In it, he raises a key point about the tendancy for Facebook, as well as other large companies, to manipulate industry language for their own ends. As Saad puts it:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;The lack of honesty and clarity from the company and its representatives &#8230; and the continued trend of taking established language &#8211; such as &#8220;open technology&#8221; or &#8220;data portability&#8221; &#8211; and corrupting it for its own marketing purposes, is far more disconcerting than the boundaries it&#8217;s pushing with its technology choices.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Read it on <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/chris_saad_facebooks_claims_about_data_portability_are_false.php">ReadWriteWeb</a>. </p>
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		<title>Facebook Embraces Data Portability – Again</title>
		<link>http://blog.dataportability.org/2010/05/26/facebook-embraces-data-portability-%e2%80%93-again/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 21:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve Repetti</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Facebook issues strongest endorsement of Data Portability yet, saying the people own their own data. <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://blog.dataportability.org/2010/05/26/facebook-embraces-data-portability-%e2%80%93-again/">Facebook Embraces Data Portability – Again</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a title="Picture credit: VentureBeat" href="http://social.venturebeat.com/2010/05/26/zuckerberg-motivations/" target="_blank"><img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; text-align: center; width: 320px; height: 271px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_kggRn_YFGSg/S_2BorSsW0I/AAAAAAAAAGo/8yZPwMnoEmE/s320/zuckerbergf8_11.jpg" border="0" alt="Picture credit: VentureBeat" /></a><br />
Today, Mark Zuckerberg, CEO of Facebook, made his strongest endorsements of Data Portability to date. Speaking from the company’s Palo Alto offices earlier today he stated:</p>
<div style="padding: 15px; background: #f0f0f0;">“There is this concept of data portability that we’re trying to enable. We believe that people own their information and not only should they have control over it, but they should be able to take it to other services.”</div>
<p>This is a bold pronouncement from a company that has all too often been perceived as being more closed than open when it comes to data policies.</p>
<p>Of course the devil is in the details, particularly in understanding better what he means when he says “this concept of data portability that we’re trying to enable” – hopefully the “concept” is the same one most other folks understand to be regarding data portability.</p>
<p>As for the rest of his statement, it is a significant milestone for him to say “people own their information” and that they “should be able to take it to other services. If this holds true, then Facebook may be on the verge of becoming the largest and most influential supporter of data portability – to the significant benefit of all.</p>
<p>Still, Facebook has been here before – having initially joined the non-profit Data Portability organization and then largely remaining on the sidelines.</p>
<p>Hopefully, this all comes to pass and Facebook becomes the shining example of how a large company can balance direction and profitability with open data policies. If not, Mark’s words will likely become a rallying point that will surely stick in his side.</p>
<p>But, for now we’ll take him at his word, literally, and hope that the corner has turned. If this is in fact the case, then one of the best things that Mark and Facebook could do is to enact an official Portability Policy – just like those suggested by the soon to be released initiative from the DataPortability Project.</p>
<p>Read more: <a href="http://social.venturebeat.com/2010/05/26/zuckerberg-motivations/" target="_blank">http://social.venturebeat.com/2010/05/26/zuckerberg-motivations/</a></p>
<p>&#8211;Steve Repetti<br />
Data Portability Vice-Chair<br />
<a href="http://www.radwebtech.com" target="_blank">www.radwebtech.com</a> </p>
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		<title>Facebook claims data portability is criminal</title>
		<link>http://blog.dataportability.org/2010/05/06/facebook-claims-data-portability-is-criminal/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 May 2010 17:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Elias Bizannes</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Facebook believes it's criminal to reuse your data with your permission <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://blog.dataportability.org/2010/05/06/facebook-claims-data-portability-is-criminal/">Facebook claims data portability is criminal</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the past, we&#8217;ve been contacted by <a href="http://power.com">Power.com</a> about their <a href="http://blog.dataportability.org/2009/07/10/power-com-serves-facebook-a-pr-headache-thrusts-data-portability-into-legal-spotlight/">long-standing conflict with Facebook</a>, but which seems to have been dismissed by Facebook management as a petty distraction. The <a href="http://www.eff.org/">Electronic Frontiers Foundation</a> has <a href="http://www.eff.org/press/archives/2010/05/03">now got itself involved</a>, urging a federal judge to dismiss Facebook&#8217;s claims &#8211; which is, that criminal law is violated when its users opt for an add-on service that helps them aggregate their information from a variety of social networking sites. Some very important points have been raised that I&#8217;ve quoted below from the press release:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;California&#8217;s computer crime law is aimed at penalizing computer trespassers,&#8221; said EFF Civil Liberties Director Jennifer Granick. &#8220;Users who choose to give their usernames and passwords to aggregators like Power Ventures are not trespassing. Under Facebook&#8217;s theory, millions of Californians who disregard or don&#8217;t read terms of service on the websites they visit could face criminal liability. Also, any Internet company could use this argument as a hammer to prevent its users from easily leaving the service as well as to shut down innovators and competitors.&#8221;</p>
<p>Even the simple use of the automatic login feature of most browsers would constitute a violation under Facebook&#8217;s theory, since those services are &#8220;automatic means&#8221; for logging in. But the risk for users is even broader. If any violation of terms of use is criminal, users who shave a few years off their age in their profile, claim to be single when they are married, or change jobs or addresses without updating Facebook right away would also have violated the criminal law.</p>
<p>&#8220;The information you put into social networking sites is yours, and you should be able to access it, export it, and aggregate it as you please,&#8221; said EFF Legal Director Cindy Cohn. &#8220;If Facebook&#8217;s legal argument is upheld, it will hobble companies that enable consumer choice, as well a create a massive expansion in the scope of California criminal law.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>For the full brief:<a title="http://www.eff.org/files/filenode/facebook_v_power/poweramicus.pdf" href="http://www.eff.org/files/filenode/facebook_v_power/poweramicus.pdf"> http://www.eff.org/files/filenode/facebook_v_power/poweramicus.pdf</a> </p>
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		<title>Assessing the openess of Facebook&#8217;s &#8220;Open Graph Protocol&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Apr 2010 20:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Elias Bizannes</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>This is an analysis by DataPortability chairperson Elias Bizannes and former chairperson Chris Saad.</p> <p>Summary In essence, Facebook is striving to create a web-wide semantic search engine and recommendation system based on a mix of open and closed technologies.</p> <p>While some of the approaches are indeed open, the overall outcome is an attempt to <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://blog.dataportability.org/2010/04/25/assessing-the-openess-of-facebooks-open-graph-protocol/">Assessing the openess of Facebook&#8217;s &#8220;Open Graph Protocol&#8221;</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>This is an analysis by DataPortability chairperson <a href="http://eliasbizannes.com">Elias Bizannes</a> and former chairperson <a href="http://chrissaad.com">Chris Saad</a>.</em></p>
<p><strong>Summary</strong><br />
In essence, Facebook is striving to create a web-wide semantic search engine and recommendation system based on a mix of open and closed technologies.</p>
<p>While some of the approaches are indeed open, the overall outcome is an attempt to further lock in Facebook&#8217;s dominance over the web&#8217;s social infrastructure and capture as much attention data and social graph data in proprietary formats and API&#8217;s as possible.</p>
<p><strong>The Metadata</strong><br />
In order to bring their open graph to life, Facebook requires publishers to describe their pages using rich semantic data.</p>
<p>They provide this metadata in the page header, which is accessible by other services. It is described in a fundamentally open format. These are all good things for the web in general and the semantic web specifically.</p>
<p>Facebook is making good use of W3C endorsed standards, like RDFa.  Exactly how RDFa works in HTML5 (and thus how this protocol works in HTML5) is still being standardised &#8211; so any criticism to date on Facebook&#8217;s compliance with these existing efforts are not significant at this time.</p>
<p>The spec is also released under the <a href="http://www.google.com/url?sa=D&amp;q=http%3A%2F%2Fopenwebfoundation.org%2Flegal%2Fagreement%2F" target="_blank">Ope</a><a href="http://www.google.com/url?sa=D&amp;q=http%3A%2F%2Fopenwebfoundation.org%2Flegal%2Fagreement%2F" target="_blank">n</a><a href="http://www.google.com/url?sa=D&amp;q=http%3A%2F%2Fopenwebfoundation.org%2Flegal%2Fagreement%2F" target="_blank"> Web Foundation Agreement, Version 0.9</a>. This is a good thing, because it clears IPR issues and links it with other maturing open efforts.</p>
<p><strong>Social Plugins</strong><br />
As part of this push, Facebook has released a series of light-weight widgets that publishers can quickly embed on their site to get started.</p>
<p>The plugins focus only on Facebook APIs and datasets, although nothing more or less is expected from the company on this front.</p>
<p>The plugins are a way to bootstrap the usage of the new APIs. Alone, they are not complete solutions for serious publishers who recognize that the rest of the web (ie, Twitter, Yahoo, Google, etc) are collectively larger than Facebook. They need cross platform solutions that use the FB API but include alternatives.</p>
<p>These widgets will do fine for the long tail and may pose a real threat to social widget players focused on that market.</p>
<p><strong>Gestures</strong><br />
This is a play to increase the quantity of semantic data on the web and then capture social gestures (aka &#8220;Likes&#8221;) made against those concrete semantic objects &#8211; think a web-wide recommendation engine. This is a big step forward for Tim Berners-Lee&#8217;s vision of the semantic web.</p>
<p>This could be a concern for Amazon&#8217;s dominance over the product recommendation space and will hopefully lead to a more open recommendation ecosystem/technology set as the two battle it out.</p>
<p>Currently, however, these gestures are submitted to FB&#8217;s proprietary database using proprietary API calls.</p>
<p>This was not the most open way to execute on this functionality. Instead, these gestures could be written out to a site-specific Activity Stream that can then be indexed by any web-crawler.</p>
<p>The way the functionality is now &#8211; Google, Yahoo, Microsoft and any other players would have to negotiate bulk access to the datasets, putting Facebook in a position to control who gets to innovate on these social patterns.</p>
<p><strong>24 Hour Caching</strong><br />
During the f8 conference, Facebook also announced a rollback of their 24 hour caching rules for data usage. We think this is a good step forward and aligns Facebook with other major services.</p>
<p><strong>Value for publishers</strong><br />
Facebook allows users to interact with content without authenticating themselves to the host site. This means the host sites have no access to the user&#8217;s data, gestures or friends while Facebook benefits from a complete picture of their clickstream and other actions.</p>
<p>While this is good for user privacy, it is a devils bargain for the publisher who is hosting Facebook user experiences while only seeing a fraction of the potential value.</p>
<p>At stake here is access to (and value extraction from) user actions on given sites. Currently many interactions on third party sites will not actually be accessable or monetizable by third party sites who host Facebook experiences.</p>
<p><strong>Value and privacy for users</strong><br />
During the announcement, Facebook claimed to be placing user privacy at the top of its list of concerns. Although this does not strictly relate to interoperable Data Portability issues, it is clear that by automatically opting all users into this protocol, Facebook is more interested in on-ramping its entire userbase rather than giving users an initial choice.</p>
<p>In addition, for users to leverage this data in other services, those services need to &#8211; once again &#8211; code defensively against Facebook&#8217;s APIs and data formats instead of using open formats like <a href="http://www.google.com/url?sa=D&amp;q=http%3A%2F%2Factivitystrea.ms%2F" target="_blank">Activity Streams</a> to encapsulate the data.</p>
<p><strong>Medium Term Outcomes</strong><br />
Ultimately Facebook is building a semantic search engine and e-commerce recommendation engine bootstrapped by pblishers hosting their social widgets and users making proprietary gestures.</p>
<p>While Google and others might use some of the same metadata, they won&#8217;t have access to the proprietary aspects of the system leaving FB in prime position to innovate and control outcomes.</p>
<p>It also furthers Facebook&#8217;s goals of turning their Identity platform into the default login system for the web, something that no company should own. Thankfully, OpenID, as an underlaying technology, already far exceeds Facebook&#8217;s closed system (having being used by the majority of login providers/login events such as Google, Yahoo and others). As a community, however, we should be sure to drive that point home where ever possible and ensure site owners offer the open alternative.</p>
<p>In order for true interoperable, peer-to-peer data portability to win, serious publishers and other sites must be vigilant to choose cross-platform alternatives that leverage multiple networks rather than just relying on Facebook exclusively.</p>
<p>In this way they become first-class nodes on the social web rather than spokes on Facebook&#8217;s hub.</p>
<p><strong>Further Reading:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://radar.oreilly.com/2010/04/why-f8-was-good-for-the-open-w.html">David Recorden says why it&#8217;s good for the web</a></li>
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<li><a href="http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2010/04/22/understanding-the-open-graph-protocol/">Chris Messina talks about the Open Graph Protoco</a>l</li>
</ul>
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<li><a href="http://www.google.com/buzz/louisgray/fqLFgPgnx2E/Where-are-the-independent-voices-with-power">Lack of independent thought on the technology</a></li>
</ul>
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<li><a href="http://blog.js-kit.com/2010/03/29/yahoo-login-is-more-popular-than-facebook-are-you-covered/">Login Marketshare &#8211; Facebook is just one player</a></li>
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		<title>POWER.COM Serves FACEBOOK a PR HEADACHE, Thrusts DATA PORTABILITY into LEGAL Spotlight</title>
		<link>http://blog.dataportability.org/2009/07/10/power-com-serves-facebook-a-pr-headache-thrusts-data-portability-into-legal-spotlight/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 18:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve Repetti</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yesterday, social aggregator POWER.COM filed a countersuit against Facebook that raises some thorny issues for Facebook and adds some interesting defenses for the case of data portability and personal data ownership. It is not yet clear from reading the pleadings whether either party will win in this escalating case (there are some key issues and concepts on both sides that a Court will have to wade through), but it is clear the issue of Data Portability comes center stage.  <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://blog.dataportability.org/2009/07/10/power-com-serves-facebook-a-pr-headache-thrusts-data-portability-into-legal-spotlight/">POWER.COM Serves FACEBOOK a PR HEADACHE, Thrusts DATA PORTABILITY into LEGAL Spotlight</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yesterday, social aggregator POWER.COM filed a countersuit against Facebook that raises some thorny issues for Facebook and adds some interesting defenses for the case of data portability and personal data ownership.  It is not yet clear from reading the pleadings whether either party will win in this escalating case (there are some key issues and concepts on both sides that a Court will have to wade through), but it is clear the issue of Data Portability comes center stage.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/author/jason/" target=_blank>Jason Kincaid</a> over at TechCrunch released an interesting article on the subject, <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/07/09/powercom-countersues-facebook-over-data-portability/" target=_blank>“Power.com Countersues Facebook over Data Portability,”</a> along with a copy of the counter-suite.</p>
<p>In their opening salvo, Power steps up to the soap box and discusses “a borderless Internet where users have the right to own and control their own data” and goes on to present their recently adopted “Internet User Bill of Rights:”</p>
<p><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 400px; height: 198px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_kggRn_YFGSg/Slc7fVcdTNI/AAAAAAAAAEc/9dlzfKq4Z3Q/s400/power.gif" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5356815691298983122"></p>
<p>This is great stuff for users and data portability, and in many ways mirrors much of our work over at the Data Portability Project (<a href="http://www.dataportability.org" target=_blank>http://www.dataportability.org</a>), however it has little to do with what Facebook is doing in the context of their site or their lawsuit. It does, however, place Facebook in a position of having to answer why it does not agree with these principals.</p>
<p>Thus far, Facebook has tread cautiously as it relates to user data and rights therein. They do not wish to give away the store or proprietary and competitive advantage, nor do they wish to (further) incur the wrath of its users by inflicting too many restrictions. Many of us hoped that a number of Facebook’s recent initiatives signaled their willingness to explore a leadership role in this highly important area. Unfortunately, the pleadings conflict with this hoped for direction.</p>
<p>From Facebook’s perspective, Power.com violated Facebook’s stated terms and conditions; the contract that establishes the relationship between the parties for the use of the site.  Every Facebook user has agreed to this (or they wouldn’t be using the site), but, like virtually every other “terms and conditions” document, it is overly broad, highly protective, filled with legalese, and generally ignored by most actual users.  It is merely the lack of enforcement by the provider (in this case Facebook) that keeps these things out of court more often. (The standardization and simplification of this topic is also the subject of much work over at Data Portability and other advocacy organizations).</p>
<p>Power.com counters by saying they are doing nothing that Facebook isn’t already doing themselves, and, besides, theirs (they believe) is the right way anyway. It is clear that Facebook does not agree with this position but now is in the difficult position of explaining why many of the good points that Power.com raises are not valid within Facebook.</p>
<p>Still, Facebook is a privately held company and they get to decide what is allowed or not. No court, other than the one of public opinion, can force them to do what they do not want to do – unless the legal line is crossed.</p>
<p>And while I do not believe that Power.com has a leg to stand on when trying to win based on how much “screen scraping” of data is allowed (Facebook’s terms and conditions say none), they have raised some interesting issues that could inspire both the court of opinion and the hollowed halls of justice.</p>
<p>At the very least, Facebook is highly conflicted. It does not own the copyrights associated with all of the information available on its site; it does use some of the very techniques with 3rd-party sites that it accuses Power.com of using against Facebook; it has moved in the direction of providing greater access to its data; and it is party to litigation that potentially represents a PR quagmire.</p>
<p>More significantly for Facebook, Power.com raises the issues of “Restraint of Trade” and “Restraint on Competition” regarding data portability which both lead to the dreaded “M” word: MONOPOLY. Specifically:</p>
<blockquote><p>“Facebook’s conduct restricting users’ ability to access their own data constitutes an unlawful restraint of trade under Section I of the Sherman Act.”</p>
<p>“Facebook’s conduct constitutes monopolization <i>(or attempted monopolization, ed.)</i> of the market for social networking website services in violation of Section 2 of the Sherman Act.”</p></blockquote>
<p>With all of the issues at hand, I predict that there will be chest banging and posturing by both sides, some “interesting” press conferences, followed by a negotiated settlement that washes the issue aside and lets both parties (partially) save face. Regardless, Facebook will likely take a PR “black eye” over this.</p>
<p>But I submit there is another, better, solution: Facebook should not only continue its current efforts of data portability and accessibility, but become the leading player on how to do it right!  Users would benefit, Facebook would be crowned a friend to all proponents of Data Portability, and the lawyers would find something else to do! In absence of such, Facebook risks becoming the view in the rear view mirror for the company that actually does get it right.</p>
<p>IMHO.</p>
<p>Steve Repetti</p>
<p><a href="http://www.radwebtech.com">www.radwebtech.com</a> </p>
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		<title>Redefining and Standardizing &#8216;Ownership&#8217;</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 01:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Daniela Barbosa</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Facebook, by virtue of its sheer size and scope, is often the first to run into issues that the rest of the social web will need to address sooner rather than later. To its credit, Facebook seems to be trying to address these issues in a way that protects their short and long term <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://blog.dataportability.org/2009/02/16/redefining-and-standardizing-ownership/">Redefining and Standardizing &#8216;Ownership&#8217;</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Facebook, by virtue of its sheer size and scope, is often the first to run into issues that the rest of the social web will need to address sooner rather than later. To its credit, Facebook seems to be trying to address these issues in a way that protects their short and long term business while balancing the needs of the community.</p>
<p>By observing these actions the DataPortability project, and the wider community, can learn lessons on what works and what doesn&#8217;t so we can all adopt clear community endorsed best practices.</p>
<p>The latest Facebook step (misstep?) occurred last week when they made some changes to their Terms of Service and one of the items of contention by many is the following statement:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;You may remove your User Content from the Site at any time. If you choose to remove your User Content, the license granted above will automatically expire, however you acknowledge that the Company may retain archived copies of your User Content. &#8220;</em></p></blockquote>
<p>&#8220;So Who Owns Your Data&#8221; is always a question that myself and other members of the DataPortability Project (DPP) have grappled with for some time. No doubt &#8216;ownership&#8217; of data is top of mind to people who are interested in data portability.</p>
<p>We have said in the past that Ownership without Control is worthless. Scope of Control, however, seems to stem from ownership. That is, you should only be able to control what you own. So the fundamental question of Ownership is still important.</p>
<p>&#8216;Ownership&#8217;, however, is tricky when you are talking about bits and bytes that are getting shared, indexed, replicated and mixed together by multiple services and participants.</p>
<p>Perhaps Ownership is not the right metaphor at all? Late last year, fellow DPP co-founder Elias took the time to address some thoughts on &#8216;ownership&#8217; of data with a post titled &#8220;<a href="http://liako.biz/2008/11/you-dont-nor-need-to-own-your-data/">You don’t nor need to own your data</a>&#8221; that I would recommend reading. In it, Elias discusses traditional concepts of ownership and goes on to suggest that perhaps we need a new term to describe our relationship to social data.</p>
<p>Here is a large section from <a href="http://liako.biz/2008/11/you-dont-nor-need-to-own-your-data/">his post</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>First of all, let’s define property ownership: “the ability to deny use of an asset by another entity”. The reason you can claim status to owning your house, is because you can deny someone else access to your property. Most of us have a fence to separate our property from the public space; others like the hillbillies sit in their rocking chair with a shot gun ready to fire. Either way, it’s well understood if someone else owns something, and if you trespass, the dogs will chase after you.</p>
<p><a href="http://flickr.com/photos/xplosive/133377798/"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3222/3033746793_847965c6a1.jpg" alt="133377798_8c85d1f1a6_o" width="500" height="331" align="center" /></a></p>
<p>The characteristics of ownership can be described as follows:</p>
<ol>
<li>You have legal title recognising in your legal jurisdiction that you own it.</li>
<li> You have the ability to enforce your right of ownership in your legal jurisdiction</li>
<li> You can get benefits from the property.</li>
</ol>
<p>The third point is key. When people cry out loud “I own my data”, that’s essentially the reason (when you take out the Neanderthal emotionally-driven reasoning out of the equation). Where we get a little lost though, is when we define those benefits. It could be said, that you want to be able to control your data so that you can use it somewhere else, and so you can make sure someone else doesn’t use it in a way that causes you harm.</p>
<p>Whilst that might sound like ownership to you, that’s where the house of cards collapses. The reason being, unless you can prove the ability to deny use by another entity, you do not have ownership. It’s a trap, because data is not like a physical good which cannot be easily copied. It’s like a butterfly locked in a safe: the moment you open that safe up, you can say good bye. If data can only satisfy the ownership definition when you hide it from the world, that means when it’s public to the world, you no longer own it. And that sucks, because data by nature is used for public consumption. But what if you could get the same benefits of ownership &#8211; or rather, receive benefits of usage and regulate usage &#8211; without actually ‘owning’ it?</p>
<p><strong>Property and data &#8211; same same, but different</strong><br />
Both property and data are assets. They create value for those who use them. But that’s where the similarity’s end.</p>
<p>Property gains value through scarcity. The more unique, the more valuable. Data on the other hand, gains value through reuse. The more derivative works off it, means the more information generated (as information is <a href="http://liako.biz/2008/03/can-you-answer-my-question/">simply data connected with other data</a>). The more information, the more knowledge, the more value created &#8211; working its way along the <a href="http://liako.biz/2008/05/the-value-chain-for-information/">information value chain</a>. If data is isolated, and not reused, it has little value. For example, if a company has a piece of data but is not allowed to ever use it &#8211; there is no value to it.</p>
<p>Data gains value through use, and additional value through reuse and derivative creations. If no one reads this blog, it’s a waste of space; if thousands of people read it, its value increases &#8211; as these ideas are decimated. To give one perspective on this, when people create their own posts reusing the data I’ve created, I generate value through them linking back to me. No linking, no value realised. Of course, I get a lot more value out of it beyond page rank juice, but hopefully you realise if you “steal” my content (with at least some acknowledgement to me the person), then you are actually doing me a favour.</p>
<p><strong>Ignore the above!</strong><br />
Talking about all this ownership stuff doesn’t actually matter; it’s not ownership that we want. Let’s take a step back, and look at this from a broader, philosophical view.</p>
<p>Property ownership is based on the concept that you get value from holding something for an extended period of time. But in an age of rapid change, do you still get value from that? Let’s say, we lose the Holy War for people being able to ‘own’ their data. Facebook &#8211; you win &#8211; you now ‘own’ me. This is because it owns the data about me &#8211; my identity, it would appear, is under the control of Facebook &#8211; it now owns, that “I am in a relationship”. However, the Holy War might have been lost but I don’t care. Because Facebook owns crap &#8211; as six months ago, I was in a relationship. Now I’m single and haven’t updated my status. The value for Facebook, is not in owning me in a period of time: it’s in having access to me all the time &#8211; because one way they translate that data into value is advertising, and targeting ads is pointless if you have the wrong information to base your targetting on. Probably the only data that can be static in my profile, is birth-date and gender &#8211; but with some tampering and cosmetics, even those can be altered now!</p></blockquote>
<p>With their change of terms, Facebook is essentially saying that they will &#8216;forever own&#8217; a copy of your data as part of their archives to do with what they wish. I will go so far as to sympathize personally with the team there and give them an approving nod for some of <a href="http://blog.facebook.com/blog.php?post=54434097130">Zuckerberg&#8217;s comments</a> especially acknowledging that they are indeed trying to address some serious questions around how we live our digital lives. It&#8217;s not easy and they certainly don&#8217;t have to go it alone.</p>
<p>I would invite them, and anyone else interested in the topic, to join one of our most recent TaskForces &#8211; the <a href="http://wiki.dataportability.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=4490392">EULA &amp; ToS Taskforce</a>.</p>
<p>Following the example of  <a href="http://creativecommons.org/">Creative Commons</a>, the goal of our task force is to identify and name key concepts that help users and service providers understand what each other expects . The intended output will be a set of documents that can be referenced or included in EULA and TOS agreements and simple descriptions for users to understand what it means when they upload and share data with services providers.</p>
<p>As part of this taskforce, we seek to provide a <em><strong>standard </strong></em>way of describing the relationship between the user and site that is easy to understand and provides both sides with the control that they need.</p>
<p>If you are interested in the subject &#8211; now is the time to join us and help define some basic principles that services providers should support by joining and supporting the work that the <a href="http://wiki.dataportability.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=4490392">EULA &amp; ToS Taskforce </a>is conducting.</p>
<p>And another kudos to Facebook for starting a <a href="http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=77069107432#/topic.php?uid=77069107432&amp;topic=7673">discussion topic</a> immediately on the &#8220;<a href="http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=77069107432#/group.php?gid=77069107432">People Against the new Terms of Service (TOS)&#8221;</a> Facebook Group. Some real use cases and concerns are being captured in that discussion that will help us all as we work towards our common goal.</p>
<p>Some additional posts on the subject of Facebooks New Terms of Service:</p>
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<li>Where the buzz started on the Consumerist Blog (a consumer advocacy blog) <a href="http://consumerist.com/5150175/facebooks-new-terms-of-service-we-can-do-anything-we-want-with-your-content-forever">Facebook&#8217;s New Terms Of Service: &#8220;We Can Do Anything We Want With Your Content. Forever</a>.&#8221;</li>
<li>Caroline McCarthy CNET: <a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-13577_3-10165190-36.html">Facebook: Relax, we won&#8217;t sell your photos</a></li>
<li>An interesting overview of the various terms of service out there by Amanda French : <a href="http://amandafrench.net/2009/02/16/facebook-terms-of-service-compared/">Facebook terms of service compared with MySpace, Flickr, Picasa, YouTube, LinkedIn, and Twitter</a></li>
<li>web.tech.law <a href="http://webtechlaw.com/what-facebooks-revised-terms-use-mean-your-content">What Facebook&#8217;s revised terms of use mean for your content</a></li>
<li>There are plenty of other posts and suspect more to come so here is a link to posts via <a href="http://www.techmeme.com/090216/p91#a090216p91">Techmeme</a></li>
<li><a href="http://amandafrench.net/2009/02/16/facebook-terms-of-service-compared/">Comparing the Terms and Conditions </a>of Facebook, Myspace, Flickr, Picasa, YouTube, LinkedIn and Twitter.</li>
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